Charles Koehler interviews St. Louis County Councilmen Jerry Corcoran and Geri Rothman-Sarat. The conversation revolves around a proposed St. Louis County ordinance to address bias crimes, introduced in May. The bill aims to replace the existing Human Relations Petty Offenses code with an Anti-bias code, broadening the scope to include sexual orientation, among other factors. The discussion highlights the distinction between regular vandalism and hate-motivated crimes, emphasizing the need for specific prosecution of acts that incite fear or intimidation. There is debate on whether the bill adequately addresses hate crimes and whether it should include groups like the disabled and those with sexual orientations. The bill's potential impact on confidentiality and the broader societal implications are also discussed.